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'Big hole' in Qantas plane prompts Manila stop

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A Qantas flight en route to Australia from London made an emergency stop in Manila on Friday after a loud bang punched a hole in the Boeing 747-400's fuselage, officials and passengers said.

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{"commentId":2276030,"authorDomain":"krose"}

whew!

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Reply#1 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:03 AM EDT
{"commentId":2276140,"authorDomain":"timothy16"}

"passegers will be accommodated in hotels while the aircraft is repaired". Are you crazy? This might take months to repair, even IF the aircraft is still considered airworthy by Boeing , etc.

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Reply#2 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:36 AM EDT
{"commentId":2276570,"authorDomain":"ed-thompson"}

nah...a little sheet metal and some duct tape...good as new....

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#2.1 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:48 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2276190,"authorDomain":"ita8111"}

Re: while the aircraft is being repaired, said Alfonso Cusi, the airport's general manager.

This is the "idiot" statement of the century though I have little doubt given the litany of lies we've been told by the media that the AP person might have gotten this completely wrong.

If not this GM should be fired first. For stupidity.

Your don't keep people in hotels while you "repair" a big hole in an aircraft.

This is not the "hole in the bucket" song of yesteryear please.

You won't find Henry trying to mend the hole with straw.

On a different note if this is what can happen to a quality aircraft run by one of the best airlines in the world, then the GOOD LORD help us all and save us from such happenings.

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    Reply#3 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:20 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2276192,"authorDomain":"john-54"}

    "passegers will be accommodated in hotels while the aircraft is repaired"...Clearly this isn't a jetblue aircraft!

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    Reply#4 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:22 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2276221,"authorDomain":"mis-q"}

    QUOTE "while the aircraft is being repaired"

    I personally would demanding ANOTHER plane...not the same one after being repaired. With what band aides???

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    Reply#5 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:46 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2276225,"authorDomain":"signnshirt"}

    (passengers vomited after disembarking) at leat they waited

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    Reply#6 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:49 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2276302,"authorDomain":"dan01ster"}

    The reporter responsible for this item should go back to journalism school....get your facts right! The headline says "Australia to London" yet the main body of the story says "Enroute to Australia from London". Which way was it going. If it was enroute TO Australia, then the story just doesn't add up...you can't experience a problem like that 1 hour into the flight and then just happen to be near Manila for an emergency landing...geography doesn't allow that....not even a Concorde is that fast. Other news agencies are also reporting the same ERROR...just worded slightly different. So much for original reporting...everybody just gets the story from the same news agency and doesn't bother to check for accuracy. How can we expect accurate reporting on more major stories ie the wars, if they can't even get facts right on a simple story like this!

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      Reply#7 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:29 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2276522,"authorDomain":"rsmgster"}

      Yeah, that was a classic! I came here to post my thoughts about the repair of the plane so it could continue with its passengers but the other idiocies in the story may be more fun to comment on.

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        #7.1 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:38 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2285052,"authorDomain":"benchmark-1"}

        Absolutely correct on the abysmal quality of reporting; it has become 'parroting' -- in between stories on Britney, et. al.

        In addition, Alix (sp), the current talking head at 8:20 EST this morning, described how the "gas masks" descended from the aircraft ceiling -- and babbled on about how "like in a movie, the passengers would be screaming" only to be corrected by the reporter on scene, who described instead the calmness and common sense of the passengers, who also put on the oxygen masks once they descended.

        When the cable wars for ratings began, and real anchors were replaced by beauty queens, intellect departed broadcast journalism. Instead we have cuties who can't even read teleprompters, and inject every story with emotional outbursts; hard news is marginalized by the constant stream of celebrity garbage. Who cares? Unfortunately, the majority of the audience. It's no wonder many of us departed journalism for other fields we could believe in. My apologies for the long rant.

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          #7.2 - Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:34 AM EDT
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          {"commentId":2276411,"authorDomain":"ita8111"}

          According to other news sites the plane was going from the UK to Australia and had stopped at Hong Kong and then taken off again.

          The problem with the major media sources today is that they are owned by the filthy rich, employ morons who look pretty and handsome but are stupid and ask no questions and simply "vomit" what they hear without checking the facts.

          Reminds me of the time when senator Ted K. had the tumor removed and you saw "experts' on cancer spouting off on CNN like they were brain surgeons and I'm not talking about that Gupta chap only.

          Take a good look at the photograph of the Qantas staff member checking the plane and read the caption carefully:

          Qantas pilot Captain John Francis Bartels views the damaged right wing of his Qantas plane after an emergency in Manila, Philippines, on Friday.

          UNQUOTE:

          Did you notice the "damaged right wing" part.

          Those damn liberals take every opportunity to malign the right, don't they?

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            Reply#8 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:08 AM EDT
            {"commentId":2276567,"authorDomain":"derekandmee"}

            I was told this would happen once the maintaince was give'nt to cheap over sea's people ,CRAP Qantas had the BEST SAFETY record when it was left in Aussie ,BUT GREEDY CEO's wanting to look good to their shareholders,@!$%# the safety of their paying passengers,MAKE MONEY,Well WE allway's fly Qantas BUT NOT ANYMORE .,till the maintance returns to the BEST that earn it the name SAFEST IN THE SKY,return it to aussie expert's, you dick head's

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              Reply#9 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:48 AM EDT
              {"commentId":2276597,"authorDomain":"rehmgdboy"}

              I know they have better "Duct Tape" nowdays, but fixing 'that' plane is going to take more than a day or two! Would you want to board 'that' plane again? Not me!

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                Reply#10 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:54 AM EDT
                {"commentId":2276601,"authorDomain":"derekandmee"}

                WHAT i've writen is what i want the aussie people to read it's @!$%#in true

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                  Reply#11 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:55 AM EDT
                  {"commentId":2276629,"authorDomain":"rehmgdboy"}

                  Outsourcing Maintenance shouldn't cause a hole like that. No matter who maintains the plane, if an object hits it, it will do damage. Maybe some space junk or a Meteor hit it, who knows?

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                    Reply#12 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:00 AM EDT
                    {"commentId":2278416,"authorDomain":"ed-thompson"}

                    It looks like the work of "Hancock"

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                      #12.1 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:36 PM EDT
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                      {"commentId":2276654,"authorDomain":"marmaladehypnosis"}
                      "No one was very hysterical," she said.

                      Yeah because they all fainted.

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                        Reply#13 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:05 AM EDT
                        {"commentId":2276689,"authorDomain":"goliger"}

                        Sounds to me like they are all lucky to be alive and have a lot to be thankful for.

                        The perception or spin of the airline official that the plane will require a minor repair and that the passengers will require just a brief layover in a hotel until it is repaired is really asinine.

                        The reporter needs to go back to school because the facts of direction of the plane and the timeframe of where it could have been one hour after departure are inconsistent. Sounds like one too many beers at happy hour.

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                          Reply#14 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:11 AM EDT
                          {"commentId":2276718,"authorDomain":"brotz49"}

                          repaired!!! Bring in a different plane!

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                            Reply#15 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:17 AM EDT
                            {"commentId":2278116,"authorDomain":"canddkelly"}

                            The passengers were taken to several hotels while waiting for another plane to Melbourne late Friday, Wantas said. The plane was towed to a hangar in Manila.

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                            #15.1 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:08 PM EDT
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                            {"commentId":2277100,"authorDomain":"marcelodal"}

                            Does anyone else think this might have been a bomb placed in the cargo? The improved cargo holds we've all seen exploding in slow motion in the Discovery Channel probably did their job and prevented a bigger explosion.

                            Not tying to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but... one month before the Olympics (think TWA 800), Australian airline, mid-flight explosion in the cargo area... I dunno...

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                              Reply#16 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:17 AM EDT
                              {"commentId":2288489,"authorDomain":"spikegary"}

                              Hey maybe it was one of those non-exploding missiles they are talking about on another thread that brought down United 93!

                              Sorry, couldn't help myself. The NTSB, Austrailia's version and several other investigation teams are working on it. They should be able to determine the real cause.

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                              #16.1 - Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:24 PM EDT
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                              {"commentId":2277124,"authorDomain":"jeff-theriault"}

                              As I recall, about the only thing on the wing to body fairing up there is a ram air inlet for the air-conditioning packs. On the inside, I believe there are some of the fire bottles in that area in some models. Also, if memory serves, the crew oxy is run off of pressurized tanks, unlike the passenger service units, that use a candle.

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                                Reply#17 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:21 AM EDT
                                {"commentId":2277515,"authorDomain":"steve-29"}

                                Kudos to the crew a great bunch to fly with!

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                                Reply#18 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:11 AM EDT
                                {"commentId":2277669,"authorDomain":"jbrockett"}

                                This is a bizarre situation. I'm inclined to think it was not a bomb or any other explosive
                                device. There is no scorching anywhere on the plane that might suggest an incendiary explosion. This may have been a result of the aircraft being struck by something from the outside. Or, someone had some Co2 canisters or other pressurized container(s) in some luggage that may have popped. If so, shame on security for not detecting it before it got loaded onto the plane. Also note that there is more insulation (green) than exterior skin in tact. It will be interesting to see what the recovered missing piece(s) look like to see if there was evidence of exterior impact.

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                                  Reply#19 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:28 AM EDT
                                  {"commentId":2278389,"authorDomain":"rayandrosetime"}

                                  The only thing I wish to say is to the Pilot and Crew. WELL DONE YOU ARE ALL HEROES, THIS WAS MAJOR DAMAGE AND YOU ALL ACTED WITH THE PROFESIONALISM AS EXPECTED. Again I say well done . I am so happy to hear about a plane with this amount of damage being able to be brought to a safe and happy landing. God Bless you all.

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                                    Reply#20 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:33 PM EDT
                                    {"commentId":2278427,"authorDomain":"candise-kovacevich"}

                                    BRINGS BACK MEMORIES OF AN ALASKA AIRLINES FLIGHT THAT HAD A HOLE BLOWN OUT THE SIDE DUE TO A DENT IN THE PLANE BY A CARGO LOADER THREE YEARS AGO.

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                                      Reply#21 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:37 PM EDT
                                      {"commentId":2278480,"authorDomain":"smontagu"}

                                      Obviously none of you know anything about aircraft! What is missing is a fiberglass faring that obviously failed. It is not a significant structural part of the plane, and it is held on by screws. The damage to the cabin was probably some collateral damage when it blew off. The passengers were never at any real risk. Now on to the news commentators...what theatrics and bombastic comments regarding this incident. Do some research first!
                                      Now that plane by Boeing is bullet proof. An Airbus, you can't even walk on the fuselage because the glue used to laminate the skin is so brittle that it cracks and causes the skin to delaminate. Why don't you do a story about that?

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                                        Reply#22 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:42 PM EDT
                                        {"commentId":2278500,"authorDomain":"rayandrosetime"}

                                        To the Captain and crew of this flight> you are all HEROES my only comment is WELL DONE. An aircraft with that much damage and you brought it in with no deaths or injuries, God was definitely your co-pilot on this flight. Again , Well Done and God Bless you all.

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                                          Reply#23 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:44 PM EDT
                                          {"commentId":2278653,"authorDomain":"markjkelly"}

                                          AS A CAPTAIN FOR A MAJOR CARRIER (CAL), I AM SO SICK OF HEARING FROM PEOPLE THAT WE ARE OVER PAID CRY BABIES. THIS CAPT. AND CREW SAVED 345 OR SO PASSENGERS BY GETTING THIS HIGHLY WOUNDED 747 DOWN TO THE GROUND SAFELY. THEY ARE TO BE HIGHLY COMMENDED. WHATS THEIR PAY WORTH NOW?

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                                            Reply#24 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:59 PM EDT
                                            {"commentId":2279084,"authorDomain":"catetaylen"}

                                            Good thing it wasn't an American carrier, they would have had to pay for the oxygen masks! Just sayin'

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                                              Reply#25 - Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:36 PM EDT
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